Deleting folders and files by sandboxed processes

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Deleting folders and files by sandboxed processes

Post by Unknown_User_930 » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:09 am

I have tried to delete folders and files by sandboxed Total Commander and also Sevant Salamander and although they claim to delete sometimes strange thing happen - instead seeing nothing I see folders twice (in sandboxed filemanager) and can browse them, some files are stays visible (but not accessible)...

(windows XP SP2 32-bit)

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Post by Xerye » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:28 am

You tried to delete files in sandboxed program. It doesn't work. You have to do it unsandboxed.
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Post by Unknown_User_930 » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:52 am

Why shouldn't it work? I don't want them to be deleted unsandboxed. The expected behavior is that the files won't exist just for sandbox (what in several cases worked but in some not).

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Post by Xerye » Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:00 pm

If you delete a file with a program that's sandboxed, the file will be copied in the sandboxed area (folders).
If not, every malware could delete everything from your system. And Sandboxie makes no sense.
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Post by Unknown_User_930 » Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:41 pm

Once again (i know how sandboxie works):

I tried to delete files and folders in sandboxed filemanagers... It doesn't work as it should - sometimes I see deleted folder double, sometimes I still see folder, sometimes some files in folder are still visible but not accessible (in sandboxed filemanager).

currently I have sandboxed Z:\a\ folder which claims "Error: system cannot find the file specified." when trying to change dir (all in sandbox), what was created by deleting this folder. Apparently sometimes deleting somehow fails, leaving file (folders) still visible, but not accessible.

Can't explain double folders... But have in one folder displayed other twice... (also created by some failed delete of whole folder)

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Post by Xerye » Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:48 pm

I told you.
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Post by SnDPhoenix » Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:12 pm

Your not supposed to be deleting the files with an sandboxed file manager, thats the problem.

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Post by Paul_K » Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:45 pm

I also have WINXP SP2:
I cannot exactly duplicate your report. I copied 2 folders with files in them to a Temp directory, and then deleted both folders using a sandboxed Explorer.

No folders or files show in the sandboxed Explorer. No duplicates, left-overs, etc.

In an unsandboxed Explorer, the folders still show as being in the sandbox. No files are in them. Sandboxie cloned them, and they still exist in the sandbox - just not visible from a sandboxed Explorer. I don't see where this would be a problem.

Of course, the original folders and files in the unsandboxed Temp folder are still there.
XP Pro SP3

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Post by tzuk » Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:41 pm

Tristan, what happens when you delete using sandboxed Windows Explorer?
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Post by Unknown_User_930 » Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:07 pm

I have just reinstall whole Windows XP... so sorry I can't replicate it - with new installed Sandboxie 3.0.1.18 it works fine... although looking to sandbox structure it isn't doing exactly the same as 3.0.1 - deleted files in sandboxies don't have zero size.. Anyway if I came across it again, I try to give more details.

Could it be from that I played with sandboxes and deleted directly files in sandbox drive folders?

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Post by Unknown_User_893 » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:42 pm

Sometimes the SB just rename the folder instead of really deleting the folder.

Reasons according to my experience:

The file is in use.(Maybe unsandboxed, but rare)
The file is locked by Windows. (I can only remove it in safe mode, by setting the privilege to myself...a bit ironical...but it happens rarely.)
The file is hidden. ( I cannot even delete it by AV scanner... but I can do so after choosing "view all sys files" in folder option....)

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