permanently update firefox and ie7 in sbie

If it doesn't fit elsewhere, it goes here
Post Reply
Unknown_User_766
Posts: 0
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 7:00 pm

permanently update firefox and ie7 in sbie

Post by Unknown_User_766 » Fri May 04, 2007 5:30 pm

i'm nu user of sbie and trying to get up to speed. i've reviewed a lot of the forum so as not to duplicate and waste your time so sorry if i missed a previous post.

i want to know how to update ie7 and ffox while i'm in sbie and after terminating sbie have those changes permanent. i recognize that i could
make the updates outside of sbie but isn't that defeating the purpose
of sbie somewhat?? thanks..rube

SnDPhoenix
Posts: 2690
Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:44 pm
Location: West Florida

Post by SnDPhoenix » Sat May 05, 2007 4:35 am

oh you could easily update a browser in sbie but thats not the problem, the problem would come from trying to make the update permanent, in order for that to happen, it would require a little extra work on your part, mainly adding to your ini as a recover folder the file path to where the browser installs.
Windows 7 SP1 x64, Sandboxie v3.70 x64 with Experimental Protection, GnuPG, OTR (Off-The-Record), Sticky Password, My Brain.

tzuk
Sandboxie Founder
Sandboxie Founder
Posts: 16076
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:57 pm

Post by tzuk » Sat May 05, 2007 8:34 am

i recognize that i could
make the updates outside of sbie but isn't that defeating the purpose
of sbie somewhat??
Not at all. If you're going to end up putting these updates in your un-sandboxed browser, then what does it matter how you got these updates? In other words, you can't say it's ok to trust the software (the updates), but not the web site you get it from.

Sandboxie is about protecting you from software and web sites that you don't trust.
tzuk

Unknown_User_766
Posts: 0
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 7:00 pm

Post by Unknown_User_766 » Sat May 05, 2007 11:29 am

thanks tzuk..i see your point. i assume that the best practice is to launch the browser in sbie to keep you protected from websites that you don't trust. that being the case, when updates to addons in ffox are announced wouldn't it be more convenient to be able to install those updates while i'm in sbie and have them permanent rather than terminate sbie, update and then go back in and launch the browser in sbie again.?

tzuk, and SnDPhoenix, if you don't see a problem with this approach
could you provide me with help in adding to my ini a recover folder
with the path to where the browser resides (as mentioned in SnDPhoenix
reply) thanks for the help..rube

tzuk
Sandboxie Founder
Sandboxie Founder
Posts: 16076
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:57 pm

Post by tzuk » Sat May 05, 2007 6:53 pm

There are tens of Firefox data files copied into the sandbox as part of normal operation. Any update you make will touch some of them. But which? Who knows. And the update can also introduce new data files.

Since you would probably not want to hand-pick which files to recover, you'd just end-up recovering the entire folder of data files. Including stuff that isn't related to the particular update. For example, your sandboxed browsing history.

Personally, I don't think that's a good idea. I don't know if there is any malware yet that hides itself in Firefox profiles, but who's to say there won't be, one day. My approach is that I'd like to know what I'm recovering from the sandbox, and recover only that stuff that I'm sure is good.

But if you don't agree, and want to go ahead with this anyway, then you can try this:

1. Apply the update into a sandboxed Firefox.

2. Go into Sandboxie Control -> Configuration menu -> Sandbox Settings -> Set Automatic Clean-Up Options. Check the box for Firefox Profiles. Click OK to close the window.

3. Still in Sandboxie Control, use File menu -> Contents of Sandbox -> Recover Files. In the window that pops up, select the Profiles folder, and click the Recover to Same Folder button.

4. Go into Sandboxie Control -> Configuration menu -> Sandbox Settings -> Set Automatic Clean-Up Options. Now clear the box for Firefox Profiles, so you aren't promoted to recover the Firefox folder any time you use Sandboxie.
tzuk

Unknown_User_766
Posts: 0
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 7:00 pm

Post by Unknown_User_766 » Sat May 05, 2007 7:49 pm

hi tzuk, ok..i see your point. it doesn't make any sense to trade a little bit of convenience for a big loss of security. thanks for the assistance..rube

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest