Lifetime License doubt

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Lifetime License doubt

Post by coolheaded » Tue May 06, 2014 2:18 am

Does the Sandboxie Pro Lifetime license offered by Invincea cover only one PC or all the PCs owned by the same person(for personal use)?On how many PCs the lifetime license can be used simultaneously?Is there any activation limit on no. of PCs?

Also what does the term 'Lifetime' mean here?Does it cover all the future upgrade versions of Sandboxie like version 4,5,6,7 and so on.. or lifetime for v4 only?
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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by GieltjE » Tue May 06, 2014 3:46 am

I still own a lifetime license from a few months before the takeover, I hope those will be kept alive as well.

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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by ad18888 » Tue May 06, 2014 11:20 am

Lifetime license means all versions and the license will not expire. The lifetime license can be installed on any personal computer you own. Even if you have ten computers which you personally own. Only the new yearly licenses have a limit of one license per computer.

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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by ad18888 » Tue May 06, 2014 1:47 pm

GieltjE wrote:I still own a lifetime license from a few months before the takeover, I hope those will be kept alive as well.

Before he left tzuk said that lifetime licenses will still be honored. If Invincea stopped honoring those licenses then people would lose trust in them. Trust is important for any business succeeding. Also, they could have legal trouble for not honoring lifetime licenses issued in the past.

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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by chrisc@invincea » Tue May 06, 2014 2:17 pm

Hello,

There are two questions here: term and usage.

As for usage, the Licensing FAQ (http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?FAQ_Licensing) states that a single product key can only be used on a single computer at a time. If you want to run Sandboxie on two different computers, then you need two product keys.

As for term, that is irrespective of the usage. Subscription licenses are good for one year, whereas the discontinued Lifetime license key did not expire -- but you are still bound to the "one computer at a time" restriction.

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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by chrisc@invincea » Tue May 06, 2014 2:18 pm

ad18888 wrote:
GieltjE wrote:I still own a lifetime license from a few months before the takeover, I hope those will be kept alive as well.

Before he left tzuk said that lifetime licenses will still be honored. If Invincea stopped honoring those licenses then people would lose trust in them. Trust is important for any business succeeding. Also, they could have legal trouble for not honoring lifetime licenses issued in the past.
Your lifetime license will be honored! (thank you for being a customer.) But note that that lifetime product key can only be used on one computer.


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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by Bellzemos » Tue May 06, 2014 2:52 pm

I bought the lifetime license a long time ago (in 2010) and Ronen Tzur said that the terms will stay. Meaning I can use my license on any number of cumpters I own. Is that right?

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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by Der Moloch » Tue May 06, 2014 2:58 pm

Is there a difference in licensing terms between legacy lifetime licenses and those which were offered to the participants who did not win in the giveaway promotion?
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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by Buster » Tue May 06, 2014 3:07 pm

http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?EndU ... eAgreement
The Author grants You a personal, limited, non-exclusive, non-
transferable license to access, install, download, copy the
Software, or otherwise benefit from using the functionality of
the Software, on any number of computers you own, provided that
You adhere to all of the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
This Agreement is an express limited use license and not an
assignment, sale, or other transfer of the Software or any
Intellectual Property Rights of the Author.
http://forums.sandboxie.com/phpBB3/view ... 094#p97094
Some of you have asked about the life-time licenses. As stated in the October 9th announcement about changes to licensing, Invincea respects the old licensing terms for old licenses, and this explicitly applies to the life-time licenses. The new October 9th licensing terms apply to licenses issued starting on October 9th, 2013.
That means old licenses continue using the terms which appear at http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?EndU ... eAgreement, so that licenses can be used on any number of computers you own.

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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by ad18888 » Tue May 06, 2014 3:12 pm

chrisc@invincea wrote:
ad18888 wrote:
GieltjE wrote:I still own a lifetime license from a few months before the takeover, I hope those will be kept alive as well.

Before he left tzuk said that lifetime licenses will still be honored. If Invincea stopped honoring those licenses then people would lose trust in them. Trust is important for any business succeeding. Also, they could have legal trouble for not honoring lifetime licenses issued in the past.
Your lifetime license will be honored! (thank you for being a customer.) But note that that lifetime product key can only be used on one computer.


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Here is what tzuk said before leaving:
To ensure future growth of Sandboxie, the licensing model shifts today from a lifetime licensing model to an annual licensing model.

Licenses issued in the past which did not include an expiration date will remain without expiration date, and may be used on more than one computer, per past licensing terms.

All new licenses issued starting today will expire in one year after initial activation of the product key, and are limited to one computer per one product key.
tzuk

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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by Abdullah » Tue May 06, 2014 3:50 pm

If you really want to respect the old "lifetime" license terms, you need to respect the acceptance of using it on any number of computers which owned by the same user ...

If you want to add new terms to this new "lifetime" offer , do it .. but you can't change the old "respected" terms !!
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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by bo.elam » Tue May 06, 2014 3:54 pm

Hi Chris, the second line in Tzuks statement is how things regarding old lifetime licenses are supposed to be:

http://forums.sandboxie.com/phpBB3/view ... 676#p94539

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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by mizzmona » Tue May 06, 2014 3:57 pm

Chris,

I am left wondering whether you are referencing only those lifetime licenses that were recently distributed in a "giveaway," or if you meant to also include personal Lifetime licenses purchased prior to the licensing changeover in October 2013.

Users who purchased a personal Lifetime license before the licensing changeover did so under the conditions and terms at that time, with the understanding being that the license:
Is personal and is not transferable into computers or electronic media that you do not own;
But does permit you to use Sandboxie on any number of computers that you personally own;
Covers the current version and all future versions of Sandboxie;
Of course, I can understand that any lifetime license Invincea might provide since last October is subject to new conditions and terms.

We were led to believe, however, that Invincea would honor the personal Lifetime licenses that were purchased prior to October 2013 -- again, licensing which included use on multiple computers. As noted by ad18888 and others, Tzuk had made that very clear. He stated that you would honor those Lifetime licenses, and I trusted him on that-- and so I trusted Invincea, that you would.

Please clear up any misunderstandings being generated here and reassure us that you will, in fact, do that.

Thanks,

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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by chrisc@invincea » Tue May 06, 2014 4:18 pm

Thank you, Sandboxie community, for jumping in this.

I referenced the Licensing FAQ on the website, which does not fully and properly reflect what the End User Licensing Agreement (EULA) states. The EULA is what governs the license terms, as Buster quoted previously.
The Author grants You a personal, limited, non-exclusive, non-
transferable license to access, install, download, copy the
Software, or otherwise benefit from using the functionality of
the Software, on any number of computers you own, provided that
You adhere to all of the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
This Agreement is an express limited use license and not an
assignment, sale, or other transfer of the Software or any
Intellectual Property Rights of the Author.
I'll update the FAQ to reflect this. Note that it applies for the original Lifetime licenses, plus those in our recent giveaway and special offer.

We do see lifetime keys with thousands of activations -- hardly for personal use -- :shock: but that's to look at for another day.

Thank you all!

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Re: Lifetime License doubt

Post by Abdullah » Tue May 06, 2014 4:33 pm

"thousands of activations" issue does not mean "on any computer you own" term is not valid or cannot be applied,

If I understood your last comment well, the lifetime licenses will be valid for any computer owned by the same user ..

This is the original FAQ
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