5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.04 RC)

Listing issues addressed in beta version 5.01
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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.12)

Post by pling_man » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:50 pm

But it isn't forced vs regular, it is "forced browser" vs "Sandboxed Web Browser".

If I copy the Desktop shortcut (to create a new one) then change the "start in" folder under properties to "C:\Program Files(x86)\Mozilla Firefox" then
this new Desktop shortcut works the same as having Firefox forced. That is, the title bar is gray (correctly) and the Search options are correct.

So there is your bug. Something to do with the "Start in" folder in the Shortcut being "C:\Program Files\Sandboxie".

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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.12)

Post by Craig@Invincea » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:22 pm

pling_man wrote:But it isn't forced vs regular, it is "forced browser" vs "Sandboxed Web Browser".

If I copy the Desktop shortcut (to create a new one) then change the "start in" folder under properties to "C:\Program Files(x86)\Mozilla Firefox" then
this new Desktop shortcut works the same as having Firefox forced. That is, the title bar is gray (correctly) and the Search options are correct.

So there is your bug. Something to do with the "Start in" folder in the Shortcut being "C:\Program Files\Sandboxie".
alright so far here is what we have concluded thus far. It has nothing to do with forced programs.
It's FF running unsandboxed that is not the preferred "Win 10 way" when it comes to color bars.
......Sbie is showing it correctly (but we don't know why)

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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.12)

Post by pling_man » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:31 pm

If I set the "Compatibility" mode to "Windows 8" in the "Sandboxed Web Browser" icon, then Firefox runs and displays correctly.

This means that there is some Windows 10 call that isn't working. Could it be the "Start.exe" program has a bug?

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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.12)

Post by Dun » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:32 pm

Curt@invincea wrote:Known issue with Firefox in Windows 10:
crashes randomly: work around - go to about:config and set viewmanager.do_doublebuffering to false.
Hmm, are you sure this was not AMD drivers issue?
AMD wrote:[424127] The Firefox browser may crash while opening multiple tabs (2 or more)
AMD Catalyst™ 15.8 Beta Driver for Windows® Release Notes
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Sandboxie 5.19.4 personal lifetime license user || Win10 x64 Pro CU (up to date) || ESET SS 10+ x64 || AppGuard 4+ || Firefox 54+ x64 || UAC on

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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.12)

Post by pling_man » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:33 pm

Craig@Invincea wrote:
It's FF running unsandboxed that is not the preferred "Win 10 way" when it comes to color bars.
I am **not** running unsandboxed. The color bars are wrong when I use the desktop shortcut to run Firefox.

The problem is with the "Start.exe" program, which doesn't work in Windows 10.

I type this from a cmd window and it doesn't work.

"C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\Start.exe" default_browser

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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.12)

Post by Curt@invincea » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:41 pm

pling_man wrote:
Craig@Invincea wrote:
It's FF running unsandboxed that is not the preferred "Win 10 way" when it comes to color bars.
I am **not** running unsandboxed. The color bars are wrong when I use the desktop shortcut to run Firefox.

The problem is with the "Start.exe" program, which doesn't work in Windows 10.

I type this from a cmd window and it doesn't work.

"C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\Start.exe" default_browser
If your default browser is Edge, it won't work.

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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.12)

Post by bo.elam » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:49 pm

Curt@invincea wrote: If your default browser is Edge, it won't work.
Curt, his default browser is Firefox. He is reporting that he sees a slightly different Firefox interfaces and the Search Window in Firefox Options changes when he runs Firefox by clicking the SandboxedWebBrowser icon than when running Firefox as a Forced program (by clicking the Firefox icon).

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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.12)

Post by Curt@invincea » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:07 pm

This is what I see when I run FF outside of Sbie. Notice the gap under the menu as well as the gray shading. I don't believe either of these are correct. FF has a few problems with Win 10. I don't see any problems with Sbie here. Certainly nothing that is worth spending a lot of time on at this point.
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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.12)

Post by pling_man » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:11 pm

My default browser is Firefox. It isn't Edge - if you look at the two images I posted you will see they are both Firefox. So Firefox runs in Sbie when I click the SandboxedBrowserIcon on the desktop (this invokes the start.exe program in Sbie program directory). It is this behaviour which doesn't work properly.

I also have Firefox as a forced program and when I run Firefox in this way, by typing Firefox in the search box in Windows 10 Firefox runs correctly.

Have you considered if there is a problem with the start.exe program? Have you noted my comment that start.exe works correctly in windows 8 compatibility mode.

Btw when I run ff unsandboxed it doesn't Look like your image on my machine, but looks ok. You are. Permanently showing the menu bar at the top, which is why it looks odd. Normally, this is hidden by default and only appears when Alt key is pressed. The grey shading is correct for version 40.

I am only trying to help by reporting this.

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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.10)

Post by RT2 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:37 pm

RT2 wrote:Hello,
Despite being very choppy when Sandboxed (I hope it will be fixed soon), Firefox works well the 5.01.10 on windows 10 with the double buffering disabled. The only big issue I'm having is when the Download Flash and Video extension is enabled, I get the bug described on the first post of this topic. If I disable this extension, Firefox start again. I'm 100% sure my profile isn't corrupted because I tried with a clean profile, with only this extension installed on Firefox, and I got the same issue.
Speaking of Firefox, I still have this problem with Sandboxie 5.01.12. Firefox refuse to start with this extension enabled, but works relatively well without it. Any thoughts on this one?

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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.12)

Post by osbron » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:21 pm

I think my post somehow got forgotten and left out in the conversation.

Refer to page 36 for my post.

I'll attach a screenshot here to prove my point.
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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.10)

Post by Craig@Invincea » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:50 pm

RT2 wrote:
RT2 wrote:Hello,
Despite being very choppy when Sandboxed (I hope it will be fixed soon), Firefox works well the 5.01.10 on windows 10 with the double buffering disabled. The only big issue I'm having is when the Download Flash and Video extension is enabled, I get the bug described on the first post of this topic. If I disable this extension, Firefox start again. I'm 100% sure my profile isn't corrupted because I tried with a clean profile, with only this extension installed on Firefox, and I got the same issue.
Speaking of Firefox, I still have this problem with Sandboxie 5.01.12. Firefox refuse to start with this extension enabled, but works relatively well without it. Any thoughts on this one?
FF will render it without the extension. The flash add on isn't needed as it will render it in HTML5.

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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.10)

Post by Yuno » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:05 pm

Craig@Invincea wrote:
leave windows 10 out of it for a bit, im on 7, but the same things happen with 10 anyway. oh i dont have 3d vision installed at all as its useless for me. from the quote of another user u provided, he just said "amd quad high end graphics" so im going to assume the integrated amd graphics, but im on nvidia/intel hd & theres no amd in this house for me to test on. theres another user on the previous page i think that still cant get tf2 to even start..

where do i retrieve dump files if theres any?
I'm not sure what else to tell you. I tested SBIE 5.01.12 on an old AMD quad core gaming PC with 3D graphics running Win 7 and Steam. It loaded just fine as well as TF2 and other games. Curt has similar results.
sure, with windows 7 32bit i responded to Curt@invincea's post to use x64..still waiting

i think more careful comparisons between 4.20 & even the first 5.x beta needs to be done, cause something was wrecked from the start when it had no problems to start with
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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.10)

Post by Curt@invincea » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:06 pm

RT2 wrote:
RT2 wrote:Hello,
Despite being very choppy when Sandboxed (I hope it will be fixed soon), Firefox works well the 5.01.10 on windows 10 with the double buffering disabled. The only big issue I'm having is when the Download Flash and Video extension is enabled, I get the bug described on the first post of this topic. If I disable this extension, Firefox start again. I'm 100% sure my profile isn't corrupted because I tried with a clean profile, with only this extension installed on Firefox, and I got the same issue.
Speaking of Firefox, I still have this problem with Sandboxie 5.01.12. Firefox refuse to start with this extension enabled, but works relatively well without it. Any thoughts on this one?
I just downloaded this extension and it works fine for me.

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Re: 5.01 Beta Available (latest version 5.01.10)

Post by Curt@invincea » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:03 am

Yuno wrote:
Craig@Invincea wrote:
leave windows 10 out of it for a bit, im on 7, but the same things happen with 10 anyway. oh i dont have 3d vision installed at all as its useless for me. from the quote of another user u provided, he just said "amd quad high end graphics" so im going to assume the integrated amd graphics, but im on nvidia/intel hd & theres no amd in this house for me to test on. theres another user on the previous page i think that still cant get tf2 to even start..

where do i retrieve dump files if theres any?
I'm not sure what else to tell you. I tested SBIE 5.01.12 on an old AMD quad core gaming PC with 3D graphics running Win 7 and Steam. It loaded just fine as well as TF2 and other games. Curt has similar results.
sure, with windows 7 32bit i responded to Curt@invincea's post to use x64..still waiting

i think more careful comparisons between 4.20 & even the first 5.x beta needs to be done, cause something was wrecked from the start when it had no problems to start with
Steam works fine for me in Win 7-64 as well. At this time, we have no reproducible problems that were created by 5.01.

It looks like the only problems being reported now are: slightly blurry fonts in 1 Sbie dialog box when display settings are set to 125%, a gray (or white) title bar under certain situations in FF, and problems with Steam and FF extensions that cannot be reproduced by us. It looks like 5.02 is taking shape nicely. :D

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