IE10 only working unsandboxed, Firefox not at all[SOLVED]

[Lode]

I have the Windows 8 blues... had to buy a new laptop, nothing but problems now.

Sandboxie gives these 2 messages when opening IE10 sandboxed: "SBIE2302 (33,5)" and "SBIE2318 failed for 'user32dll'. Then a small panel appears saying:

#Internet Explorer#
"Internet Explorer has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is found."
Then it begins a scan on a smaller panel, and this keeps repeating until I click on "Terminate All Programs" because after closing the browser the sandbox does not empty by itself when having IE10 in it now.

IE10 still works fine unsandboxed. Opera 12.17 (my default browser) also works fine, sandboxed and unsandboxed. Reason I can post this whining here...

Firefox gave the same error messages when sandboxed plus "Couldn't load XPCOM" in both sandboxed and unsandboxed mode.

I did various resets to earlier restore points -which I made on the way to get this new laptop to look and behave as I like it- and IE10 at his point still evokes the same error messages in Sandboxie, but trying to re-install Firefox now gives this message halfway:

"Install was interrupted. Click on OK to continue." When I do that Opera opens sandboxed to the Mozilla web page with the same message and a download button. But since the page is sandboxed that will do no good.

The first of the series of restore points I had was right after downloading/installing the 187 essential Windows 8 updates. This is not even for the 8.1 version yet in which Microsoft restored the Start button after public outcrying... let alone for the more recent Windows 8.1 Update 1.

But in the restore point version I'm using now I don't see that first "Important Updates" restore point anymore, only the ones made after that, which all give the same problem. I know from having restored to that very first point once before that IE10 still worked fine then. I still had nothing on my laptop yet but the factory and updated Windows 8 state.

I wonder if by restoring to a later point -closer to now- that first restore point will appear again... if so, I'll install Opera and Firefox on that virginal version, and see if that works fine, If so, I'll make a restore point. Then I'll install Sandboxie, and see if that works OK, if so, another restore point. Etc., checking every time if IE10 and Firefox still work fine after installing a new program before making a new restore point. That way I'll find out what program is causing these issues.

I did not do that checking before making restore points, assuming IE10 and Firefox worked fine sandboxed and unsandboxed as I never had these issues using xp and Windows 7.

I expect a Skype call later today, so I won't mess with this now, as I can't use my laptop during the over an hour long restore operation each one takes.

[deugniet]

First of all which version of Sandboxie do you use? Tried latest beta 4.13.1?

Link latest beta 4.13.1: http://forums.sandboxie.com/phpBB3/view ... 48&t=19151

[Lode]

Thanks for your reply and suggestion.

4.12 I have now. I'll try the beta version and report back.

[Lode]

I installed 4.13 but still the same problems with IE10 and Firefox.

This time during the Firefox install I made sure Sandboxie stayed in Disable Forced Programs mode by clicking on the icon and popup every 10 seconds when it reverts to sandbox mode. and the Firefox install worked without sending me to the Mozilla page with that "install interrupted" message. But whether opening Firefox sandboxed or unsandboxed I get the same error messages again, plus a quick automatic Firefox scan, and then a crash report panel. (I forgot to mention these latter 2 Firefox actions that occurred also before.)

I suspect all this migh have nothing to do with Sandboxie. But I guess that I can only find out by doing the restore point dance again if I can still get that very first "Important Updates" point back again.

I'll try again after that expected Skype call later today from some good friends I've not spoken with for months... they live on the other side of the globe, and it's 5 am there now. So just 5 hours more patience, leaving this issue alone, as the appointment is at 10 am their time. They're still asleep at this moment of writing...

Come to think of it, I better check and get my Skype ready for the first time use on this new laptop...

[bo.elam]

This time during the Firefox install I made sure Sandboxie stayed in Disable Forced Programs mode by clicking on the icon and popup every 10 seconds when it reverts to sandbox mode.

Lode, you can change the amount of time Sandboxies forced programs feature remains disabled when you click "Disable Forced programs." Go to Sandboxie control>File>Disable forced programs, there you can change the amount of time. I set mine to 60000 seconds . It make things more comfortable when you need to disable forcing programs.

Bo

[Lode]

Thank you!

I set it to 300 seconds. I don't remember ever having needed more time than 5 minuted -only much less- but if ever needed I know now -thanks to your tip- how to increase even that time.

In the mean all the above mentioned problems were solved by using Windows 8 Refresh. It puts the OS back and all the stuff that comes with the laptop when you buy it (including the bloatware) and strips it of all the programs you had installed on it, but puts all of them in a file that appears on your desktop. Many of them with active links to the sites you downloaded them from, and others with the titles only. But by copy/pasting them in the search bar you'll find the download spots right away of course.

The whole Refresh operation was quite fast, maybe 20 minutes or something like that, don't remember exactly.

Because IE10 works fine gain sandboxed and unsandboxed, I only know that the software I re-installed did not harm anything. I did not re-install Firefox, only Opera 12.17. The latter has a "Open with" function in case you run into a site that doesn't work well with Opera. In that case you can always choose "Open with Internet Explorer." But it seldom happens that you would need that option.

Some of the programs I did not re-install as I don't really need them.

The main thing is that my Windows 8 looks and functions like Windows 7. Anyone using my laptop now would not notice it was not running on Windows 7. The "Metro" screen would still appear blocking where I was from sight every time my finger swiped from the right to the left on my touchpad, but I got permanently rid of that by disabling "Edge Motion" under "mouse settings."

I used "Startisback" for that. On top of the Windows 7 Start menu the Windows 8 "Metro" screen appears as an icon, just in case you are so foolish as to want to ever even see it again. (It really is only good for tablets. Even having a touchscreen on a note book makes no sense. All the time holing up a Nazi like stretched out arm to tap and swipe your screen while the touchpad is even closer to you than the key board, let alone the screen.

(I'll copy this info about Windows 8 and Startisback on another thread.)

[Lode]

PS:
The problems with Windows 8 were far from gone it turns out.
During the install and configuration of a series of some 100 Windows updates this message would appear after about an hour and a half:

"Failure configuring Windows updates
Reverting changes
Do not turn of your computer".

The updates were already downloaded, and every time I wanted to reboot Windows 8 tried to install and configure them again. So this was a loop.

I tried to get rid of them using a restore point made earlier, but they were still there. So I let another Refresh operation be done, and thank God they were gone.

Now I have Windows updates turned off completely. On Windows xp and 7 I had the "only Windows updates" and "let me decide when to install" options set, but now on 8 I must choose this "no updates at all" option.

Not that it bothers me: always surfing and running my email in Sandboxie makes those security updates not needed I think.
There are already 64 of those on my new laptop anyway, all from 2013-05-06, so they might have been on my laptop before I bought it a little over a week ago.

Next year Windows 9 supposedly comes out according to some rumours I read...

[amjubeti]

mine says
internet explorer has stopped working

[Craig@Invincea]

mine says
internet explorer has stopped working

What version of SBIE are you using? This is a year old thread. You should be using stable v5.10 or beta 5.11.4

[Lode]

Thank you for your kind reply and offer to help amjubeti.*

I'm currently using version 5.10 and it works works fine with IE11.

Also using Windows 8.1, as I don't like 10.

* I edited his name in before I saw your reply below.

[Craig@Invincea]

Thank you for your kind reply and offer to help.

I'm currently using version 5.10 and IE11. Works fine.

Also using Windows 8.1, as I don't like 10.

Sure. Any Antivirus or Anti-malware installed? If so..what?

Any addons running in IE?

How are you running IE? Right click and run as sandboxed? Forced? etc.?

Have you deleted the contents of that sandbox?

[Lode]

I just edited into my post above the name amjubeti to whom you replied.

I haven't had problems with my notebook at all for quite some time now. Always surfing by default -forced- sandboxed, running my email client in it as well.

Anti-virus is Emsisoft Internet Security and Malwarebytes Pro.

Content sandbox is deleted automatically. Only sometimes I see stuff in it that wasn't deleted, and then do it manually. But that happens seldom.

[Craig@Invincea]

What does IE do? Does it load up at all?

I'd first create a new SB and run IE in there to see what happens....

[Lode]

What does IE do? Does it load up at all?

I'd first create a new SB and run IE in there to see what happens....

Sorry for not having been more clear. Everything has worked fine since shortly after I started this thread. I have no problem with anything.

Also, it was amjubeti to whom you replied at first. It is only because I still get email notifications for new posts on this old thread that I came back here. At first I did not realize it was to amjubeti you replied. I was surprised to receive an email referring to this old thread.

My apologies for this confusion.

[Craig@Invincea]

Ahhhh! Ok. Thanks for the clarification. !