Old version of Firefox and flash(like linux using 11.2)

[Tanaka Lee]

Hi, team Invincea. Please do read everything. Sorry if this might not sound like quick question. Timely i hope you can appreciate this ss it is importants.
In matter of security testing and isolating. Let say that some old pc are still xp version(as true to invicea protection programs) or win 7 32/64 bit. Id would like to ask here. Let say you are using any of those OS(32 or 64) and then install a browser like for example old version firefox 12(now you dont really need latest adblock or noscript etc.) and flash player 11.2. These 2 program are ofcourse installed outside the sandbox. But since I open the sandbox browser with the already sandbox(default browser) program it will then ofcourse start isolate them with yellow-window indicator. And all plugins(like only flash and adblock plus nothing else as fixed version that remain unchanged) will also be with the browser. AFTER closing the browser I have ticked auto delete fuction each time im done browsing(even forced folder of firefox if some inner link outside sandbox like window update link infos). So there shouldnt be any leak or so into the system? If i do download something which is legit program like from filehippo latest ccleaner etc i can use promt and use quick recovery without any problems?
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The reason i ask this is for example some people experience even old version more lightweight and viewble compared to new version of FF and flash(doesnt matter which streaming sites using flash, exlude youtube as there be missing few fuction when viewing old version flash, still install 10.2+later to view clips). And this way without anychanges on thier pc or driver expect for win updates. They can feel the old version adn flash as fixed solution without updating each time and running into bugs or even more troublesome incompitability.
So again I underline this and ask. Is it still REALLY SECURE (no matter with/without dropright or at any 32/64version of latest sandboxie 4.16) to have old version of firefox/flash as default browser(sandboxbrowser) using latest sandboxie 4.16 with even old version of flash player? And no security leaks or so at all?
I really hope this proves no problem as true sandboxie to gurantee and isolate programs. As some of latest FF/Flash updates interfere with compitabilties/bug. So i just want a fixed broswer that works for me without any regards of updating anything and has always works for months/years. So i really would liek to know. That no matter what i do(exlude downloading from unknown site to recover file outside sandbox, this i never do. still i use good antivirus) inside sandbox as long as its isolated it wont leak any securityflaw to my windows system? And after im done browsing etc. i close browser and sandbox delete contents inside. So doing this every day a shouldnt be any problem at all?
And last thing is, also for people still using xp(or for all i know people using win 7 but never update windows update for very long time guranteed that they can safety fall with sandboxie) and not getting anymore updates(even security updates) or even update their drivers. As long as they only use PC for browsing a fixed old version of browser and flash with sandboxed protection 4.16 it shouldnt be any problem at all day in day out? I just want to be sure that even these system is secured and non security leak from 4.16 Sbox.
I appr a great feedback. Hope tzuk still working with you to improve sandboxie and becomes even better and better.
/Best regards Tanaka

[Tanaka Lee]

*Bump* Regarding security questions about sandboxie 4.16 using fixed programs. Can anyone help with some answer thanks?

[Bellzemos]

I have read your "question". Do you know why nobody answed you? Because you asked 10 times the same question and people don't like reading unnecessary pile of text. Please only ask once next time you have a question - form a short post. Thank you.

And now, here is the answer for you: YES! You will still be safe when running a sandboxed Firefox and Flash, no matter what old version.

A note though: I have an old XP laptop that I very rarely use, it's a 2005 Thinkpad with 1 GB RAM and it still works with the latest Firefox, latest Flash and latest Sandboxie version. Of course Youtube won't play HD videos but this is due to the weak hardware.

Anyway, if you want to keep using XP and old Firefox with old Flash make sure you run it all under Sandboxie and you should be safer than people running Windows 8.1 with all the latest updates and a paid antivirus.

[Tanaka Lee]

I have read your "question". Do you know why nobody answed you? Because you asked 10 times the same question and people don't like reading unnecessary pile of text. Please only ask once next time you have a question - form a short post. Thank you.

And now, here is the answer for you: YES! You will still be safe when running a sandboxed Firefox and Flash, no matter what old version.

A note though: I have an old XP laptop that I very rarely use, it's a 2005 Thinkpad with 1 GB RAM and it still works with the latest Firefox, latest Flash and latest Sandboxie version. Of course Youtube won't play HD videos but this is due to the weak hardware.

Anyway, if you want to keep using XP and old Firefox with old Flash make sure you run it all under Sandboxie and you should be safer than people running Windows 8.1 with all the latest updates and a paid antivirus.

Hehe, thanks for the answer. For the "long" question even if it made m clear "10times" sorry for that. And i appreciate that there are people still dedicated to help others here. Now i can also help others when i know the right answer to this, similarities.
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Keeping it little bit short this time. To further this question. I do use win 7 but its good to know it be fine even with xp too. Also im not running old version of firefox and flash inside sandboxie first. At first install it outside same with flash and just using first private mode(unsandboxied flash turned off as well as its auto update and FF auto update too) to go legit site adblockplus/mozilla homepage for good add ons compitable with like firefox 12 and combining it with noscript which still works with old version. After i close browser i open it for 2nd time private just to remove even offline history and clear cache.
Once thats done i use the Default Sandboxie browser(under supervision of sandboxie) so when i close, it auto delete inside so nothing will change and browser will always be fixed.
1st Question: So this is what i mean and there is no risk of getting infected installing them outside sandboxie first, then use it as sandboxie browser and auto delete content after i close?
2nd Question here: With this browser/flash all installen inside sandboxie from start: If i did visit a random site that could manipulate script and contents inside old browser and it could also be infected/injected with malware without me knowing and still using Antivirus program. I assume this would be very risky. Cuz everything would remain and that malware might still be inside sandboxie to manipulate things? True?
Also if deleted contents inside, it would only mean that i need to reinstall everything again inside sandboxie. So at 1st question is better installing them outside sandbox then use it as default Sbox browser.
This is very interresting to understand.
Last note: I dont use this browser to do Banks/Payments etc even with Sboxie only as a fixed compitability solutions.
// Thanks

[Bellzemos]

Hi again, it's not really short this time either but here goes: yes, you are doing it exactly right by first installing Firefox and then all the good/clean addons you need in the real system. And then you enable Sandboxie protection from then on, that's the right way to do it. And yes, anytime you would stumble on a malicious website and downlaod a virus or whatevere it will all get deleted when you terminate the sandbox (close the browser) and the auto-delete function deletes all the crap. Only Firefox, Flash and other things that you installed outside of the sandbox will remain of course. You are doing it right, enjoy the internet.

[bo.elam]

Tanaka, I agree with all Bell wrote.

Bo

[Tanaka Lee]

=) Thx for putting up with my questions and reading the long message. Dont really need t oanswer the rest below. Its just an after feedback.
Sorry if im not too techy, even if im trying to test it out myself.
But in the end either my message long or not shouldnt really matter. The most important is to know that one is secured.
I know the answer not directly comming from team Invincea selling this product.
But if everything is what you say is true and safe. Then i trust you in that note. THANKS!
It only shows, inspirations, interest and dedication towards understanding how sandboxie really works. Specially when your buying it as a product(even if its ongoing beta for future versions) you dont really get all hands manual for how it really works from the start.
So it wouldnt hurt to understand it even better. Even if you search and read all its function there still bound to be some question unanswered. So that what you have the forum for?
So it really doesnt hurt to ask even more advanced question future(might even help make their product better with feedbacks they get)? Because there wouldnt be anything Invincea hiding from us, just by answering some of these questions? Specially when it comes to our security and integrity for us home users.