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[.08] Internet Explorer 10 History

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:35 am
by zalazar
I'm using Sandboxie 3.74 (64-bit) on Windows 8 Enterprise RTM x64 edition.
When browsing in the Sandbox with the default Internet Explorer 10, the Internet Explorer History is not saved.
When clicking on the Favorites button and then the tab "History", the Search History stays empty.
So it's not possible to view which Internet pages you have viewed.

When I'm browsing outside the sandbox the History function is working fine.

P.S.
Thanks for your effort to make Sandboxie available for Windows 8.
I think Sandboxie is a great program.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:19 am
by tzuk
I think the only way this is going to be possible on Windows 8 is by giving the sandboxed browser direct access to the History and Temporary Internet Files data. So you won't just see the old stuff in the sandboxed browser, you would also be changing that data, even if you're in the sandbox. Would that be useful to you?

Internet Explorer 10 History

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:54 pm
by zalazar
Thanks for your answer.
It's not my preferred way but if it's the only way then I understand that of course.
Might it be possible for you to explain the exact cause.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:52 pm
by tzuk
Yes, I can elaborate, but I have only looked into this briefly a couple of months ago, so please keep in mind that this is just first impressions of Windows 8.

Earlier versions of Windows/IE store temporary internet files (cache) and history information as standalone files, so there is no issue with IE in the sandbox accessing this information alongside other programs (like IE outside the sandbox).

In Windows 8 and IE 10 there is a caching service that manages all this information in an opaque database which is accessible only to that service. So if you start an instance of IE in the sandbox, it has to talk to an instance of this caching service as well.

One option is the default behavior where a copy of this caching service is started in the sandbox (inside a "dllhost" program), but it has an empty database because the database outside the sandbox is not accessible to make a copy of it.

The other option is to apply some settings* that would let the sandboxed IE talk to the caching service outside the sandbox, but that means cache and history information is exchanged both ways between IE and the caching service.

* I have to point out that I don't think I have those settings at this time, and that I plan to revisit this issue later on to see if there is anything I can do about it.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:04 pm
by zalzar
Thank you very much for your detailed explanation.
I understand the problem behind it now and because of this service and database it does make a complete sandboxed IE browser much more difficult.

not saving cookies...

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:56 am
by tes
Hello,

I am using a new install of Windows 8 pro (x86) with a licensed/registered copy of Sandboxie.

I have changed the following Sandbox settings from default:

+ Automatically delete contents of Sandbox
+ IE10 forced with:
+ Allow direct access to Internet Explorer favorites
+ Add Internet Explorer favorites to Quick Recovery folders
+ Allow direct access to Internet Explorer bookmark and history database
+ Allow direct access to Internet Explorer cookies

In IE10 (Desktop), cookies from webmail will not save (gmail, ymail, Hotmail), and therefore sign-in settings are not retained.

Any ideas?

Thank you in advance.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:24 am
by tzuk
That is a problem on Windows 8 at this time. I explained the reason in another topic:

http://sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=13897

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:36 pm
by tes
Ok, Thank you for the reply.

Hopefully it can be fixed at some point.

Cookies IE10

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:14 am
by chrisjsmith
Hello
Sandboxie Version 3.76 64-bit Win 7 Professional 64-bit sp1

I've just upgraded to IE10 and installed the latest Sandboxie version. My problem is that when IE10 is started in Sandboxie it does not see or save the cookies and history outside in the operating system. I've checked the box marked "Allow direct access to Internet cookies" etc. in settings, but it makes no difference. Running IE10 outside Sandboxie saves and sees the cookies and history just fine. Maybe there is an option I’m missing in IE10 because IE9 works just fine with Sandboxie V3.76. Hoping you can help. Chris

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:25 am
by tzuk
Perhaps IE 10 is bringing the cookie approach from Windows 8 to Windows 7. Will take a look.

Re: Cookies IE10

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:50 am
by Dan_Br0673
chrisjsmith wrote:Hello
Sandboxie Version 3.76 64-bit Win 7 Professional 64-bit sp1

I've just upgraded to IE10 and installed the latest Sandboxie version. My problem is that when IE10 is started in Sandboxie it does not see or save the cookies and history outside in the operating system. I've checked the box marked "Allow direct access to Internet cookies" etc. in settings, but it makes no difference. Running IE10 outside Sandboxie saves and sees the cookies and history just fine. Maybe there is an option I’m missing in IE10 because IE9 works just fine with Sandboxie V3.76. Hoping you can help. Chris
Thanks, I am having the same issue with History, and some cookies, cookies seems random, but history is a complete blank, none is saved
Windows upgraded me to IE 10 without asking, even though I had specified do not install updates automatically

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:41 pm
by CoS
Have the same Problem here, but ist IE 10 unter Windows 7 (64-Bit)!

At the first Time start IE 10 in Sandboxie i got some Errors because the needed Cache is to big. Then when i started IE 10, a dllhost.exe wants Internet Access, but IE 10 works without giving this Access! After a few Settings IE 10 works fine, but it doesnt save the History :-(

Will there be a new Version of Sandboxie that can fix These Problem, or ist it generally impossible to fix that anytime?

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:00 pm
by jeffr123
I'm also running the same version of Sandboxie and Windows. I had the same problems with the cookies being random (although mostly not there) and history being blank.

I ran across three knowledgebase articles on Microsoft's website about upgrading to Windows 8 and specifically mentioning Sandboxie saying that Sandboxie needs to be uninstalled and re-installed after the upgrade.

I uninstalled Sandboxie and re-installed it and the cookie problem is gone. However, the history is still blank.

Just wanted to pass that along.

-Jeff

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:06 pm
by jeffr123
Just to follow up...

After about 4 or 5 days IE10 went back to not seeing the cookies and history not being displayed. So uninstalling and reinstalling Sandboxie wasn't a permanent fix.

When I run IE10 outside the sandbox, the cookies are fine and all my history is there. It's almost as if Microsoft moved the location of the cookies and history and Sandboxie just needs to know where to look.

Is there any status on this?

-Jeff

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:27 pm
by tzuk
The problem with cookies should be mitigated to some extent in version 4.01.08 by allowing Sandboxie to save cookies outside the sandbox.

More here:

http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=15331