Can't start The Bat! in sandbox?

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Verno
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Can't start The Bat! in sandbox?

Post by Verno » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:00 am

When I try to start The Bat! in sandbox I get message

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SBIE2212 Email reader 'thebat.exe' is not configured to run sandboxed
SBIE2212 Email reader 'thebat.exe' is not configured to run sandboxed
SBIE2212 Email reader 'thebat.exe' is not configured to run sandboxed
I know it is not configured to run sandboxed, that is why I am starting it in sandbox manually when I want it. Can't I?

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Post by tzuk » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:47 am

You should go into Sandbox Settings > Applications > Email Reader and enable the checkbox for The Bat!

You should then go into Sandbox Settings > Applications > Folder and tell Sandboxie where your email files are located.

Then you can run The Bat under Sandboxie.

Please also take a look here,

http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?FAQ_Email
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Post by Verno » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:25 pm

Noo you didn't really understand. I don't want The Bat! sandbox completely. Only on occasion. That is what I do with browser opera. I usually don't start it in sandbox and that is fine for me. But sometimes I start it in a the default sandbox. I want the same for e-mail client. I want to sandbox it only when I want it with "Run Sandboxed" in context menu.

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Post by Guest10 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:11 pm

Verno wrote:I want to sandbox it only when I want it with "Run Sandboxed" in context menu.
That's what tzuk's instructions will allow you to do:
'Run Sandboxed' when you want to do that.
It also allows The Bat! to save emails out of the sandbox, assuming that you want that to happen.
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Post by Verno » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:59 pm

Why doesn't it work the same as with other applications, just "run sandboxed" from contect menu?

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Post by Guest10 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:57 pm

From one of my other posts:

"Programs that appear to perform email functions receive a warning that they have not been configured to run sandboxed, for the reason that emails that are downloaded into the sandbox will be lost when the sandbox contents are deleted.

The usual method of 'configuring' such a program is to use a File Access > Direct Access setting that specifies the program's .exe name, and the folder location (outside of the sandbox) where the email files are kept on disk. "

This is why you were advised to use the above settings.
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Verno
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Post by Verno » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:37 am

I understand the requirement to configure direct access and all.

But I don't want to keep the emails I download in sandbox.

I want to use it like this. Usual usage of e-mail program - non-sandboxed. Usage sometimes - e-mail program used IN sandbox together with all its mail and settings. I don't want any new mail get out of the sandbox.

I can't seem to be able to explain. Most of the time - email client not sandboxed, used in usual way. Sometimes - sandboxed together with all new files it creates or modifies.

You know, I just don't want sandboxie to know that this is a e-mail client, I want sandboxie treat TheBat! as any other program.

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Post by tzuk » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:16 am

Verno wrote:I don't want any new mail get out of the sandbox.
Sounds like a recipe for losing your emails. Let me be clear that if at some point you get confused if you're in the sandbox or out of the sandbox and you lose your emails, this is going to be your sole responsibility. (Of course that would be your responsibility even with typical use.)

Now if you want to fool Sandboxie into thinking your email program is configured for running in the sandbox, you can remove the settings that you added for The Bat!, and then add a Direct File Access setting for thebat.exe to some random file in some random folder that doesn't exist.

Guest10 has a post on the subject that goes into more detail.
http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopi ... 4985#84985
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Post by Verno » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:15 pm

Thank you for your replies.

I found another workaround - just renamed the executable of TheBat! to something else and sandboxie doesn't know this is TheBat! anymore.

I think you shouldn't completely restrict running a e-mail program in sandbox manually. You could just show a warning once and still allow it to start in sandbox.

I completely understand how sandboxie works, and that e-mails downloaded in sandbox will stay in sandbox and get deleted unless I use direct access setting or recover them by hand. But this is not the case only for e-mail but all other files created or modified by sandboxed programs, e.g. browser history etc.

Thank you for great program! (I bought it :) )

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