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[MitchE323]

On the forum, we have four threads that for all intents and purposes, are not used. One even has a last post date of Mar27,2007. I propose substituting those threads with differant subject matter. I also propose that members can write in a request for a particular subject matter in Anything Else, and if Tzuk approves, it is implemented.

That is the end of the request. If the request is granted, then I would like to further an idea originally from Castleofargh. A thread that is compiled only of sandboxie.ini files from existing users. Castleofargh indicates a need for seeing the entire ini, in order to better see the entire picture. And I agree with him.

The first obvious betterment is the ease of finding answers in a central location for new members. But it would also apply to members that have ini's with no problems. There are three types of ini's. Those that work, those that do not work, and those that work but could be better.

This type of posting leads to long posts, so I propose that it be a "NO REPLY" thread - a member states what his particulars are as far as what he wanted, and posts the ini. Common Sense and the Moderator are used to prevent duplicates.

For me, betterment examples would be that I could have found out the settings that DLGuild uses for AutoSizer, and also the secure settings that Lucas uses for his bank-hookup. MyPenry could have seen Wraithdus "Portable Firefox" setup on his own, and would never have had to even write in a problem.

Also Tzuk could have a central place to monitor how his customers are "tangent-ing" his program, and may decide to build some of it into the program.

I do not propose an "ini" thread for problem ini's - that is already handled in "Problems encountered and how to work around them". A new member can not be expected to tear through thread after thread, to "maybe" find something at the very end.

Again, this was planted by Castleofargh - and he may choose to add to this.
mitch

[SnDPhoenix]

Hell yeah, I agree with this! It would most definitely help out new members/users of Sandboxie get a clearer picture of how an ini could be setup, as well as learning exactly how and where a parameter can be used in the ini file. Also in addition, how about a new section of the forum also be made called "General" where you can talk about everything and anything?

[MitchE323]

I agree with the "General" - it can be about sandboxie or not. The benefit there is that good ideas pop up not only in usual places. Two members can discuss something totally not sandboxie related, and then all of a sudden it's like "we can make Sandboxie do that!"

[SnDPhoenix]

Exactly man, just chat about whatever, whether its related to Sandboxie or not and you never know, just as you said, 2 (or more) people could start chatting about stuff then next thing ya know, bam! All of a sudden, we've got a new idea for Sandboxie.

[tzuk]

MitchE323, I don't think a forum composed of INIs dumped by people will make much of a difference over today's collection of problems and solutions, which in many cases contain fragments of INIs. It's not going to make a lot of sense to a newcomer, and questions will be posted.

However, there is certainly place to distill the many duplicate topics and posts into a collection of well written, concise articles that explain how to deal with particular subjects in the context of Sandboxie.

For example an article about AutoSizer that specifies the OpenIpcPath needed in Sandboxie, and also dlguild's notes about the extra configuration needed in AutoSizer itself.

And I think these articles should go into the wiki and not in this forum.

Also in addition, how about a new section of the forum also be made called "General" where you can talk about everything and anything?

Why not use the Anything Else forum for that?

[MitchE323]

Ok Thanks Tzuk, you're probably right - what is a "wiki"?

Edit -- Brain freeze - wikipedia - lol --Edit

[tzuk]

In this site, everything that isn't the forum is managed by a wiki. Except that while wikis are typically used to enable cooperative content creation, in this site, I am the only one creating wiki content.

[dlguild]

I agree that a series of wiki articles would be useful. Open threads tend to ramble, often times getting completely off subject. Perhaps articles titled using the name of the program, i.e., 'Keylogger Hunter Configuration Settings', 'Comodo Firewall Configuration Settings', etc.

However, I think it is not just the sandboxie.ini settings which need to be addressed, but in some cases, settings within the other program need changed. For example, I had fits getting with Kaspersky Internet Security Suite to live happily with Sandboxie. None of the changes I had to make involved Sandboxie settings, all changes had to be made within KIS.

The other issue is that all of this is a bit of a moving target. What works with one combination of program versions may have to be changed as the versions of the various programs (including Sandboxie) are updated. KIS 6 worked fine with Sandboxie for me. KIS 7 caused me fits.

Perhaps if Tzuk provided a format for communicating solutions to him, he could add articles as time permits to the 'Help & FAQ' section (I assume that is the 'wiki'). I would image he would need at least the following information:

1. Operating system, 32 or 64 bit version & service pack level
2. Version of Sandboxie
3. Name & Version of target program
4. Custom sandboxie.ini settings
5. Custom target program settings
6. Any other relevant information which affects the viability of the solution (i.e. works OK but not with Comodo Firewall, etc)

It might be useful as well to review a thread's 'subject' line when moving it to 'Resolved Problems'. Often times a modification to the subject might make the thread more readily found via the search function. Don't know it this field can be altered by the moderators however.

[MitchE323]

Well, that's pretty much what I was after (notice the No Reply function) - which would have led to a series of ......... articles, if you want to call them that. If I had only known of the existence of the mysterious wiki, I would of course have pushed that button.
mitch
ps-Why do I get the feeling that to get to the "Wiki", you have to climb a smooth vertical mountain, and way up there a guy is sitting on a ledge with a fire going - and he is the Wiki. And Tzuk climbs up there to get advice on Sandboxie.

[MitchE323]

But also, remember that the request was for a change in those catagorys. This ini thing was presented as an option for one of the catagories. Personally, I'd pretty much be happy with anything.

[SnDPhoenix]

Yeah, see the "article" idea is what i was thinking, just that the way i was thinking of it, would be by putting it in the forums, but it does make more sense to just put it in the wiki, only problem though, is that no one can add "articles" to the wiki except tzuk...

[tzuk]

Not really a problem, more like a technicality.

[MitchE323]

Well I think that SND's four lines that produce the semi-firewall effect are about the greatest thing to hit the computer world since ...........well, Sandboxie. We have a situation where the information that would help others on that, is scattered to the point of almost being unnoticeable.

One thread was completely formulative and was a quick back and forth between seasoned Sandboxie users who were able to quickly pick up on the merits. here; http://sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1894

The next was primarily a late night jam session that grew into more discussion - and that had a couple of interruptions by members that needed help at that time. here; http://sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1903

I would more than like a threesome with Dlguild and SnDPhoenix on this to bring it all under one roof.

There is even more beyond this as discoveries were made as far as multiple sandboxes and the benefits they give. (the work done by rOlZ, the security enhancements from Lucas, the dreams of MikeJ etc. etc) But with all due respect, those enhancements are secondary, and only have importance in a multiple sandbox setting.

Snd's settings created the need for those multiples, and probably should be a foundation....of sorts.
mitch

[dlguild]

Well I think that SND's four lines that produce the semi-firewall effect are about the greatest thing to hit the computer world since ...........well, Sandboxie. We have a situation where the information that would help others on that, is scattered to the point of almost being unnoticeable.

I certainly agree that as things stand a lot of valuable user information is getting lost in the depths. Mitch is absolutely right to bring this issue to the forefront.

If, however, a new GUI is forthcoming in the not to distant future, the value of consolidating currently available information now into some more user friendly format may prove to be limited. Indeed, a lot of the information may be obsoleted by the new GUI. As only Tzuk knows the release timetable, the value of consolidation at this point can only be judged by him. And my gut tells me that this is one cat that is going to "stay in the bag" (rightly so).

In any event, I am certainly willing to assist in any way I can.

[tzuk]

If, however, a new GUI is forthcoming in the not to distant future, the value of consolidating currently available information now into some more user friendly format may prove to be limited. Indeed, a lot of the information may be obsoleted by the new GUI.

Right, that's much my intention, to collect settings published in this forum into named groups, for instance a "KeyScrambler" settings-group, or a "Block all Internet access except for Internet Explorer" settings-group, and allow easy selection of these pre-defined settings-group.